Thomas Ptacek made an interesting tweet today about Nation States, and if the term has any meaning, which got me thinking. In light of the numerous breaches that have been occurring, affecting both commerce, government, and potentially even elections, I decided to take some time to write down my thoughts on some of the subjects that come up when these events occur.
First lets talk about victim psychology. When a person or an organization is hacked, they go through similar emotions to victims of any crime. There is shame and guilt, anger, a desire to "do something about it" and to make sure "this can never happen again".
There is also a feeling of need to justify why the breach occurred; "How could this have happened?". Also important to take into consideration is the mindset of investigators. They like catching the bad guy, uncovering the mystery, beating the attacker at their own game. However, its not exciting to investigate or report on a dumb or simple attacker, who did nothing exceptional. Because of this, people are highly incentivized to look for indicators or confirmation that the attacker was some how exceptional. This makes it more ok that they lost and were compromised and it makes investigator's jobs more exciting. (I know, I've been there.)
Lets talk about a word that gets thrown around a lot by media, government, and intrusion investigators: Sophisticated. This term seems to imply a sort of evil genius, someone who did such outlandishly amazing feats of hacking that there is no way your average organization could have stopped or detected them.
In the interest of giving you background let me say I've personally investigated a large number of breaches, and my team even more. I've conducted an even larger number of attacks myself for the purposes of security, even some I would label as sophisticated, so I've worked on both sides of the issue. We have seen breaches which have been verified government attacks (verified by direct human means among a number of other things, giving me high confidence, not just by an IP address or a foreign word in code), organized crime, talented blackhats, vandalizing kids, corporate competitors, and malicious insiders. In all of these investigations, very few did anything that I would personally classify as sophisticated.
Its probably time to define what I mean when I say sophisticated. To me an attack requires a number of elements in order to be considered sophisticated:
Now lets tackle this term "Nation State". As it turns out, this is much trickier than you might suppose. In the context of computer attacks, most people might define this as an attack carried out purposefully by a government against an organization, individual, or other government. People like very clean, clear cut, black and white definitions so that we know who the bad guy is and who the good guy is. Unfortunately the world doesn't work so simply. I would like to propose that a Nation State attack could be one which incorporates any of the following:
In light of the above, an attack may use known Nation State tools, but could be carried out by someone who either captured or stole these tools, or is using them on the side, without permission, for personal gain. Imagine, for example, a country where you don't have to be a government or military employee to hack for the government. You are given access to the best tools and training, covert networks, and target lists. You see a lot, you know where money and secrets lie. Then government polices change and your services are no longer needed, or are less needed. Maybe you took copies of the tools home. Maybe you still have accounts or access to jump stations and command and control servers. It might be tempting to leverage this to make a little money on the side. Many investigators will see the IPs you are coming from, the tools you are using, your language preferences, and make the Nation State determination, even though this is clearly not the case. I would venture to say that unless you have the following, attribution is shaky at best:
Now for most private companies, the above is fantastically too expensive to maintain, the talent too scarce, and national laws too unfriendly, and from a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to bother. There are of course exceptions, and multiple companies working in an industry and cooperating with government or law enforcement might get close.
It is also important to say that Sophisticated attacks aren't necessarily Nation States, and Nation State attacks aren't necessarily Sophisticated. Let me give some examples.
I know the story of an individual, who when they were around 14 years old, researched and developed a suite of what I could call sophisticated tools, including hardware firmware persistence, air-gap jumping, and ex-filtrated data analytics. This person then extensively planned out an attack against a government in a country other than their own, and conducted it over the course of around a year. They did this primarily for the intellectual pursuit, and to gain access to specific technologies to help them in further attacks down the road. This attack was eventually discovered, and classified as a Sophisticated Nation State attack by the investigators, when in fact it was a talented kid, acting alone.
I have personally investigated attacks verified to be directed, executed, and managed by a foreign government, which used straight up off the shelf and publicly available hacker tools, in very obvious and even clumsy ways. The attack was successful, but was caught and stopped pretty quickly and was only determined to be Nation State because an outside organization had proof obtained by other investigatory means.
I have also seen (and performed) attacks where a couple of US based blackhats will create or purchase a 0day, modify it, build a suite of custom tools developed with foreign language packs, anonymously purchase or compromise hosts in a foreign country, and conduct a campaign against an organization in the US which has all the hallmarks of being a Sophisticated Nation State attack. But it was actually just us performing an attack simulation for a client, or a group of non-government affiliated blackhats using deception to hide who they are.
A sophisticated attack can be an expensive one (although in the case of the 14 year old maybe not so much). High end attack tools, 0day, etc. are very valuable and take time to produce. You don't want to burn these tools for no reason. This means there is incentive to use the least sophisticated and cheapest means to accomplish the following goals:
- Gain access to a target.
- Move freely in the target environment.
- Maintain access as long as desired.
- Avoid detection.
- Transfer data at will.
- Frustrate investigations if detected.
In many cases, the detection aspects in the list above don't matter, even for nation states. Sometimes if you can get in and get what you need with little to no repercussions, you don't care if you are detected a month later.
If you think about it this way, then the ideal situation might be to watch while a non-affiliated 3rd party performs the attack, using their own tools, and you simply reap the access or data rewards without getting your hands dirty.
The goal of this post was to point out that when you hear the terms Nation State or Sophisticated attack thrown around by the media, or companies who sell investigation / threat intelligence services and tools, you might hesitate before taking it at face value. I'm not saying these organizations are being intentionally or maliciously misleading, just that their criteria for making those statements may be too lose and ill defined.
Val Smith
First lets talk about victim psychology. When a person or an organization is hacked, they go through similar emotions to victims of any crime. There is shame and guilt, anger, a desire to "do something about it" and to make sure "this can never happen again".
There is also a feeling of need to justify why the breach occurred; "How could this have happened?". Also important to take into consideration is the mindset of investigators. They like catching the bad guy, uncovering the mystery, beating the attacker at their own game. However, its not exciting to investigate or report on a dumb or simple attacker, who did nothing exceptional. Because of this, people are highly incentivized to look for indicators or confirmation that the attacker was some how exceptional. This makes it more ok that they lost and were compromised and it makes investigator's jobs more exciting. (I know, I've been there.)
Lets talk about a word that gets thrown around a lot by media, government, and intrusion investigators: Sophisticated. This term seems to imply a sort of evil genius, someone who did such outlandishly amazing feats of hacking that there is no way your average organization could have stopped or detected them.
- "We got broken into!"
"How could this have happened? Didn't you do your job? Didn't we spend all that money on defenses?"
"Well they were VERY sophisticated"
"Oh well ok then, nothing we could have done"
In the interest of giving you background let me say I've personally investigated a large number of breaches, and my team even more. I've conducted an even larger number of attacks myself for the purposes of security, even some I would label as sophisticated, so I've worked on both sides of the issue. We have seen breaches which have been verified government attacks (verified by direct human means among a number of other things, giving me high confidence, not just by an IP address or a foreign word in code), organized crime, talented blackhats, vandalizing kids, corporate competitors, and malicious insiders. In all of these investigations, very few did anything that I would personally classify as sophisticated.
Its probably time to define what I mean when I say sophisticated. To me an attack requires a number of elements in order to be considered sophisticated:
- Is targeted rather than opportunistic. This means someone set out with intent to attack the organization rather than stumbling across a random vulnerability they could take advantage of while looking for anything random to break in to.
- Is planed. This means someone didn't just say "Let me throw a bunch of attacks at this organization I don't like", but rather put together a plan for getting in, staying in, targeting data or capabilities, getting information out, and hiding their identify. There are clues during an investigation that help you see the difference between a planned attack and a haphazard one.
- Uses unique technology or technology in a unique way. Unless there is an intentional deception going on, sophisticated attacks don't use off the shelf hacker / auditor tools. They typically use high quality (reliable) custom tools, or tools available as a part of operating systems in unusual or unintended ways.
- Involves malware that obviously took a team to write. There are very talented individuals who can write custom tools, but most often sophisticated tools are written by teams of specialists who break up and take on different features or capabilities of the tool. If you are looking at code, you can often tell this.
- May involve anti-analysis or anti-investigation techniques, or target investigators directly.
- Long term persistence. Random hackers usually want to get in and get out. Sophisticated hackers have more confidence in their tools and abilities, have more resources, and tend to stay a while to extract all the value from the compromise they can.
- Involves data theft beyond purely financial (not just Credit Card numbers) or impact on critical business functionality.
Now lets tackle this term "Nation State". As it turns out, this is much trickier than you might suppose. In the context of computer attacks, most people might define this as an attack carried out purposefully by a government against an organization, individual, or other government. People like very clean, clear cut, black and white definitions so that we know who the bad guy is and who the good guy is. Unfortunately the world doesn't work so simply. I would like to propose that a Nation State attack could be one which incorporates any of the following:
- A highly talented individual hacker, hacking mostly alone. This person may be monitored by a government, either passively or actively, who benefit from their non-directed actions.
- A private, non-government employed, hacker group, whose activities get co-opted by a government.
- Defense contractors and other private business who supply tools and talent, knowingly or unknowingly, to a government and it's interests.
- Military staff whose purpose is typically more one of disruptive capability, but may collaborate with any of these other groups.
- Civilian government staff, comprised of intelligence professionals and others, who leverage cyber attacks for intelligence purposes.
- Any of the above who are acting for other purposes, such as personal financial benefit, not under the direction of a government, but perhaps using government tools and resources.
In light of the above, an attack may use known Nation State tools, but could be carried out by someone who either captured or stole these tools, or is using them on the side, without permission, for personal gain. Imagine, for example, a country where you don't have to be a government or military employee to hack for the government. You are given access to the best tools and training, covert networks, and target lists. You see a lot, you know where money and secrets lie. Then government polices change and your services are no longer needed, or are less needed. Maybe you took copies of the tools home. Maybe you still have accounts or access to jump stations and command and control servers. It might be tempting to leverage this to make a little money on the side. Many investigators will see the IPs you are coming from, the tools you are using, your language preferences, and make the Nation State determination, even though this is clearly not the case. I would venture to say that unless you have the following, attribution is shaky at best:
- Initial entry vector
- Copies of the tools used and high end reverse engineering capabilities
- Full packet capture and netflow of the attack
- Comprehensive logs
- Forensic images of compromised hosts
- Threat Intelligence sharing across multiple organizations or even countries
- Human intelligence (ex. confessions from the attacker, group infiltrators and spies, people assets in law enforcement or other investigatory organizations)
- Hack back. Access to attacker systems and infrastructure, or even national network infrastructure in order to monitor the actual sources of attacks.
Now for most private companies, the above is fantastically too expensive to maintain, the talent too scarce, and national laws too unfriendly, and from a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to bother. There are of course exceptions, and multiple companies working in an industry and cooperating with government or law enforcement might get close.
It is also important to say that Sophisticated attacks aren't necessarily Nation States, and Nation State attacks aren't necessarily Sophisticated. Let me give some examples.
I know the story of an individual, who when they were around 14 years old, researched and developed a suite of what I could call sophisticated tools, including hardware firmware persistence, air-gap jumping, and ex-filtrated data analytics. This person then extensively planned out an attack against a government in a country other than their own, and conducted it over the course of around a year. They did this primarily for the intellectual pursuit, and to gain access to specific technologies to help them in further attacks down the road. This attack was eventually discovered, and classified as a Sophisticated Nation State attack by the investigators, when in fact it was a talented kid, acting alone.
I have personally investigated attacks verified to be directed, executed, and managed by a foreign government, which used straight up off the shelf and publicly available hacker tools, in very obvious and even clumsy ways. The attack was successful, but was caught and stopped pretty quickly and was only determined to be Nation State because an outside organization had proof obtained by other investigatory means.
I have also seen (and performed) attacks where a couple of US based blackhats will create or purchase a 0day, modify it, build a suite of custom tools developed with foreign language packs, anonymously purchase or compromise hosts in a foreign country, and conduct a campaign against an organization in the US which has all the hallmarks of being a Sophisticated Nation State attack. But it was actually just us performing an attack simulation for a client, or a group of non-government affiliated blackhats using deception to hide who they are.
A sophisticated attack can be an expensive one (although in the case of the 14 year old maybe not so much). High end attack tools, 0day, etc. are very valuable and take time to produce. You don't want to burn these tools for no reason. This means there is incentive to use the least sophisticated and cheapest means to accomplish the following goals:
- Gain access to a target.
- Move freely in the target environment.
- Maintain access as long as desired.
- Avoid detection.
- Transfer data at will.
- Frustrate investigations if detected.
In many cases, the detection aspects in the list above don't matter, even for nation states. Sometimes if you can get in and get what you need with little to no repercussions, you don't care if you are detected a month later.
If you think about it this way, then the ideal situation might be to watch while a non-affiliated 3rd party performs the attack, using their own tools, and you simply reap the access or data rewards without getting your hands dirty.
The goal of this post was to point out that when you hear the terms Nation State or Sophisticated attack thrown around by the media, or companies who sell investigation / threat intelligence services and tools, you might hesitate before taking it at face value. I'm not saying these organizations are being intentionally or maliciously misleading, just that their criteria for making those statements may be too lose and ill defined.
Val Smith
